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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. we are monitoring rfk who is currently speaking right now in phoenix, arizona. he's going to be dropping out of the race, we expect, and throwing his weight behind donald trump, both according to a court filing and two sources familiar who spoke with nbc news. once he makes the announcement, we're going to go there. we're going to start, though, with the big picture, the big choice that everyone has, the choice of whom to elect. it is yours. with both conventions in the books and the general election starting in earnest, voters should have a clear vision of what each party is offering because even without the nitty-gritty of precise policy details, the vision of the country presented by the democrats was strikingly different from the one offered by the republicans starting from the very top courtesy of our friends at "morning joe." >> i see an america where we

hold fast to the fearless belief that built our nation. >> we are, indeed, a nation in decline. >> it is now our turn to do what generations before us have done, guided by optimism. >> it's a massive invasion at our southern border that has spread misery, crime, poverty, disease, and destruction. >> i will not cozy up to tyrants and dictators like kim jong un. >> north korea, kim jong un, i get along very well with him. >> you can always trust me to hold sacred america's fundamental principles from the rule of law, to free and fair elections, to the peaceful transfer of power. >> we had that horrible, horrible result that we'll never let happen again. the election result, we're never going to let that happen again. they used covid to cheat.

we're never going to let it happen again. >> darkness versus light, joy versus fear, the democrats see a path forward where we work one another, while the republicans see a successful future as only possible without, without immigrants, without civil servants, without dissent, without the other party, and if you take donald trump at his word, and he said this in so many words, without the need for liberal democracy, at least as we know it right now. it's not just the top, though, the differences between the parties filter on down between the vice presidential picks and the future leaders themselves. the democrats with a deep bench of lawmakers with varied backgrounds and wings of the parties, different thinkers, the republicans, with a core group of maga disciples, along can a dynasty. the country is split. while things could change, poll after poll shows november will be a toss-up. what will america decide and

why? joining us now, nbc news white house correspondent monica al ba. we're going to get to the analysis in a moment. i want you to tell us what's next for kamala harris and the democrats? >> reporter: she's heading back to the airport to fly back to washington where she's expected to regroup this weekend without any public events scheduled, and then she and governor tim walz next week are expected to sit down for their first joint interview. that's something that they had promised would take place by the end of the month, so we are looking at that for next week, as well as an expected campaign stop somewhere in georgia. remember that they were supposed to go there in their battleground blitz after he was announced as the running mate, but that had to get scrapped due to tropical storm debby. so she is going to be campaigning there. they likely will have some fundraisers in the works. and then the traditional run-up to labor day becomes a big moment for a lot of campaign travel. expect them to be on the road before the vice president has to take a couple of days to continue her debate prep.

we know that she's done a couple of sessions here and there. she has had philippe rines, who played donald trump. she's standing in once again. she's going through those practice rounds. funny enough, she has never met donald trump in person or really spent any time speaking with him. when they're facing off in that debate, that's expected to be the first time, so she wants to familiarize herself with him. and then we know certainly there will be fundraising that the two are doing, and they have so much cash already with an eye popping sum of nearly $600 million expected sometime by next week by the campaign and the affiliated entities since she was announced the top of the ticket, which is just wild, it's mind boggling when you think about the fact that some of the more recently campaigns brought in $1 billion total over the course of the entire cycle and they're doing that in a matter

of weeks and months potentially here. so they will try to put all of that energy, the enthusiasm we saw on display this week in chicago on to really hitting the trail. and she told our colleagues last night that she's not taking anything for granted in the next few days, and they want to have a pretty busy, jam-packed schedule. katy. >> monica, thank you very much, we're going to get to michael steele on the analysis in a moment. we want to go to what rfk jr. said just a moment ago about his campaign. let's listen. >> i am not terminating my campaign. i am simply suspending it and not ending it. my name will remain on the ballot in most states. if you live in a blue state, you can vote for me without harming or helping president trump or vice president harris. in red states, the same will apply. i encourage you to vote for me.

and if enough of you do vote for me and neither of the major party candidates win 270 votes, which is quite possible, in fact, today our polling shows them tying at 269 to 269, then i could conceivably still end up in the white house in a contention election. but in about ten battleground states where my presence would be a spoiler, i'm going to remove my name, and i have already started that process and urge voters to vote for me. it's with a sense of victory and not defeat that i'm suspending my campaign. not only did we do the impossible by collecting a million signatures, we changed the national political conversation forever. chronic disease, free speech, government corruption, breaking our addiction to war have moved to the center of politics.

i can say to all who have worked so hard over the last year and a half, thank you for a job well done. drove me to enter the race in the first place primarily, and these are the principle causes that persuaded me to leave the democratic party. and run as an independent. and now, to throw my support to president trump, the causes were free speech, the war in ukraine, and war on our children. i have already described some of my personal experiences and struggles with the government's censorship industrial complex. i want to say a word about the ukraine war. the military industrial complex has provided us with a familiar comic book justification like they do on every war. that this one is a noble effort

to stop a super villain, vladimir putin from invading the ukraine and to thwart his hitler-like march across europe. in fact, tiny ukraine is a proxy in a geopolitical struggle initiated by american global hedge money. >> a whole lot there. rfk saying he's not ending his campaign. just suspending it, still encouraging people to vote for him, and saying it's very possible that he could win the white house. joining us now, director at center for politics at the university of virginia and editor in chief of the crystal ball, larry sabado, is it possible he could get into the white house? >> i hate to see anybody lose

money. please do not bet on that outcome. there's next to zero chance of that happening. he's entitled to do what he wants, he's a citizen and well known. this is an odd combination of i'm withdrawing and endorsing trump but remaining on the ballots in a lot of states. please vote for me. people will figure it out. it doesn't matter. he has been dropping like a rock ever since kamala harris got in. when he started he was in the upper teens. in some polls he was in the low 20s, and now at best, he's at 5 or 6% in some of the states and those polls are outdated. we have had a democratic convention. one network poll just a few days ago had him at 2%. for people who think that because he's endorsing trump he can just move that 2% into trump's column, they don't know much about politics.

it doesn't work that way. it's not going to work that way. some of them will go to trump. some of them will vote for harris. some of them may choose someone else on the ballot. there's still plenty of other candidates, depending on which state you're in, and a lot of them will be couch voters, particularly the low information voters who were attracted to him because of his name. he tried to cash in on the kennedy magic. and it turns out that the magic was in the 1960s. it was not transferred to this century. >> you know, people will be asking, though, if even at 1%, 2%, and maybe a handful that go to trump, could he be a jill stein? like we saw in 2016 with hillary clinton versus donald trump? >> anything's possible, i would actually compare it more to 2000, the bush-gore race where it came down to 537 votes in one state, florida. now, if you're going to get down to that level where that many

votes might make a difference and elect a president, of course, we would all agree, yeah, it could make a difference. i can think of, you know, several hundred things that would have more impact than rfk jr. dropping out of the campaign and endorsing trump, kind of. he's in, he's out, he's in here. he's out there. frankly, it's embarrassing. it really is embarrassing. i say this as a guy in the 60s who loved president kennedy, and senator kennedy. it's just embarrassing, and i think most of his family agrees. they have been strongly opposed to his candidacy, and i haven't talked with them. i don't know what they'll say, but i'll be shocked if they're not going to be strongly opposed to his endorsem*nt of trump. >> i would be curious to find out if there were any conversations between him and donald trump about a potential cabinet post. i know that's been floated. there's talk that he would be the health secretary. obviously no one's confirming

that. but those are the whispers of what he might want. obviously that would be extremely meaningful given his position on vaccines. larry sabato, i'm going to leave it there, my friend, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you, katy. joining us now, former rnc chairman and cohost of msnbc's "the weekend," michael steele. i want to go back to what we were talking about at the top of the show. this is the clear choice that voters have in front of them, should they choose to pay attention to it, and that is the vision of the country that is democrats are offering, which is filled with a lot more hope and the vision that the republicans are offering that is we are in a very bad place and the only way to move forward and be successful is to get rid of a whole lot of people and dissent. when you look at two of these conventions, do you expect that this race is going to stay 50/50? and if it's going to stay 50/50, why do you think so? >> i don't think it will stay 50/50, per se. i think you're going to see a

nice bump for the vice president coming out of this convention. that was an incredible framing of her narrative, her individual narrative as, you know, a young girl growing up middle class america. her professional narrative, and certainly her political narrative, and then the sort of laying out albeit in sort of bullet form policy, expositions on various things from the middle east to women's reproductive health, completed that framing for her. and i think the american people liked a lot of what they saw. they probably had a really good feeling. some people, you know, on the republican side had a good feeling and didn't know why. it was like, what am i feeling right now. well, that was america feeling joy. so if she can keep that going,

it will help her hold the number, and that's going to be critically important as you came in with the reporting about what they're going to do next. will there be tightening? sure. the debate could very well tighten things up. a major misstep or revelation about her campaign or candidacy could tighten the race. i think she has created the kind of momentum that candidates really want coming out of their convention. donald trump didn't get that. if she can hold it, it's going to be a really strong race for her getting to the finish line in november. >> it does seem like a transformational moment for the democrats. this is a whole new generation. it's coming out there. they're talking about freedom. they're waving the american flag. embracing patriotism and the word freedom we haven't seen from the democrats in quite some time, and the republicans at the same time, michael, they're

continuing on with the trump legacy of 2016, which in itself says something about where that movement is headed. we also did another mash-up of just the dnc speakers versus the rnc speakers, reveals a lot as well. let's play that. >> many of our fellow americans are right now sitting and wondering how on earth this country could have moved in the wrong direction and so quickly. the democrats in the media know that they cannot convince you, the american people, that your life is better off now because it's not. >> something wonderfully magical is in the air. it's the contagious power of hope. >> it's like the entire world has been turned upside down. does any of this sound like a country that's going in the right direction? >> i, for one, am tired of hearing about how a two-bit

union buster thinks of himself as more of a patriot than the woman who fights every single day to lift working people out from under the boots of greed, trampling on our way of life. >> the swamp is terrified of this incredible movement. they're terrified of it. they're terrified of you and the tens of millions of people watching us on tv right now. they've tried everything to keep it from you, everything to destroy his legacy, to destroy his family. they have failed, and they will not win. >> you know, senator, when i deployed to afghanistan, i didn't have kids then. many of the men and women who went outside the wire with me didn't have kids either, but let me tell you, our commitment to the future of this country was pretty damn physical. >> so the future there, those are all the potential future

leaders of each party, a lot of trumps in the rnc match. you could have included ted cruz or josh hawley or matt gaetz, and for the democrats, you saw just a wide variety of voices from a varied background, varyrd positions within the democratic party. when voters are looking at these two options, looking at fear versus hope and change, i mean, those are both powerful, emotional heart strings to pull at. what is going to be more resonant in this moment looking ahead? >> so, that's a great question because as you were standing up, i was thinking to myself, when you go to a horror movie, and you're scared, why doesn't it stick with you? because you know you get to walk out of it, and you get to go home and live your life. right? so this idea that republicans, that this iteration of the republican party, this maga party is telling us that our

life sucks and that it's dark and bleak and that terror lies around the corner, and they're stripping a away your rights and freedoms, by the way, that's what they're doing, right, that somehow that's going to be america without them. but then you hear kamala, wait a minute, bro, she just told me i got hope, and you know what, i feel good about that. and that energy is what i was referring to a moment ago. i got texts from people who are not fans of kamala harris who were like, damn, dude, this is good. actually, i get it, right? i mean, it doesn't mean that they're necessarily going to vote for her, but what it tells me is that she connects in a way that maybe i disagree with your policy, but at least i feel better about where the country may go. and then i can make that decision. i'm not looking at this just a dark future.

and that's all that donald trump has presented for the last nine years. and i think it's important for people to understand, and i think they have, that around the corner, up the hill, down the block, well, that's not that far for hope because it's right here in front of me, and that's what she brought to the convention, i think, and it's magical. and then i think the roll call. you felt good. you're looking at all of these tools they used, katy, and it worked. it connected. >> but the republicans were also offering something of a solution for the future, and their solution is rooted in getting rid of a whole lot of people. mass deportations now, those are the signs that were waved at republican national convention, and when you listen to their speeches, at the root of what is wrong with this country, immigration plays a really big role. j.d. vance talked about a lot of things in his speech, but when we hear him talk both his speech

at the republican convention, and also when we hear him talk generally, he talks a lot about immigration, and how it's the source of the problem in this country for middle class americans. let me play j.d. vance versus tim walz right now. >> okay. the lack of good jobs, of course, led to stagnant wages and then the democrats flooded this country with millions of illegal aliens. so citizens had to compete with people who shouldn't even be here for precious housing. joe biden's inflation crisis, my friends is really an affordability crisis, and many of the people that i grew up with can't afford to pay more more groceries, more for gas, more for rent, and that's exactly what joe biden's economy has given them. so prices soared, dreams were shattered, and china and the cartels sent fentanyl across the

border adding addiction to the heart ache. >> so here, this is the part, clip and save it and send it to your undecided relatives so they know, if you're a middle class family or a family trying to get to the middle class, kamala harris is going to cut your taxes. if you're getting squeezed by prescription drug prices, kamala harris is going to take on big pharma. if you're hoping to buy a home, kamala harris is going to help make it more affordable. and no matter who you are, kamala harris is going to stand up and fight for your freedom to live the life that you want to lead. >> michael, what we saw there is that republicans are arguing the root of the big problems in the country is immigration, the border. if you close up the border, you stop people from coming in, everything is going to get easier, more housing, more goods, more health care, schools will be better. everything will be better if you get rid of all of these people.

that ignores the fact that our tax base is diminishing because we don't have a return on pro creation. we don't have enough people in this country. but put that aside, that's what republicans are arguing to the american public, and the democrats are saying, oh, no, no, there's policy that we can change. we can enact within the system in order to address this. kamala harris and the prescription drug stuff, housing, she's talking about building more housing, going after private equity for raising rents too high unfairly, and cutting through the red tape to get through the housing, and you can have an argument about whether those policies are flush out enough to get enacted through a congress which might not have a democratic majority, but that is the theory of the case, that there are policy prescriptions for these problems and republicans are saying, it's really just the border and that's it. >> the republicans, again, are

talking out of nowhere because they had a prescription. they had a solution to the problem, but as kamala voted, they didn't want that solution because donald trump told them to kill it. the administration met them where they were, in fact, met them further on their side of the immigration issue than where progressives wanted to be. and so there's that -- you can't get away from that. no matter how much j.d. vance sort of, you know, sings and slings about, you know, illegal aliens, they're not aliens, a, they're human being, b, they're immigrants, just like the immigrants in your lineage, and every other family in this country, right, and the reality of it is, if you want to pack them all up, j.d. and ship them off, what do you think happens to the economy next? because all of the folks that are out there working in the

vegetable and fruit community, working here in maryland on the eastern shore getting crabs out of the bay, and up in new hampshire and new england, getting your wonderful lobsters, so when all of that labor goes away, who's doing the work? your son is going to do that? because he is doing it now. so this is such a big argument they make, we can wipe the slate. just wipe them out, and the economy is going to do better. no, that's not how this works. they're an integral part of how our economy is woven together, and the fix is what you just said, katy, it's the policy. the policy side is what you have to do. that's going to be severe control at the border updating the technology at the border, hiring more border patrol and

security, having a conversation with our allies to the south on a regional basis to sort of balance out the economics. deal with the cartels, lay that policy out. but you're not going to solve this problem just by building a wall and rounding up 10 million people, taking them out of the economy, and think, oh, tomorrow that's not going to have an impact on the cost of the fruits you buy, the eggs you eat, the milk and other goods and services that you rely on. >> and just to be clear, the republicans will say the democrats want open borders. the democrats were in on that bipartisan bill to address the issues at the border. it was a conservative-leaning bill. the democrats said they wanted it, joe biden said he wanted it. not all democrats were on board, but certainly it wasn't shot down in the senate because of lack of democratic support.

it was donald trump going out saying blame me, i don't like this bill. michael steele, thank you so much. we're watching donald trump who is in las vegas. a moment ago rfk suspended his campaign, threw his weight behind donald trump. he also said a moment ago as well, we didn't air it, though, that donald trump has offered him a place in his administration in he were to win, did not say what that position would be. we are watching to see if donald trump says anything about rfk and what he might have offered him while he's in las vegas. donald trump had in the past before this, called rfk a left wing lunatic. all right, still ahead, we go live to michigan, a day after vice president harris's address to the dnc. what voters there are telling yasmin vossoughian. and david french on what has forced conservatives, like adam kinzinger to vote against their own party. we're back in 90 seconds. in 90s

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with respect to the war in gaza, president biden and i are working around the clock because now is the time to get a hostage deal and a cease fire deal done. and let me be clear, and let me be clear, i will always stand up for israel's right to defend itself and i will always ensure israel has the ability to defend itself. at the same time, what has happened in gaza over the past ten months is devastating. so many innocent lives lost. desperate, hungry people fleeing for safety over and over again.

the scale of suffering is heartbreaking. president biden and i are working to end this war. >> that was vp kamala harris leaning into one of the most divisive issues within the democratic party. giving what amounts to her clearest statement yet on the conflict between israel and hamas. was it enough? joining us now, nbc news national correspondent yasmin vossoughian. so you spoke to voters, the uncommitted voters. >> reporter: i did. >> what did they say? >> reporter: so, you remember, katy, i was here during the michigan primary, sat down with uncommitted voters, they were not looking forward to a biden election. i was talking to them about where they are with vp harris. and their reaction to the speech last night. what i found that was most kind of cohesive from their message was their issue that they take with gaza and the biden administration's position on

gaza and israel. let's take a little bit of a listen to what they have to say, and then we'll talk on the other side. >> she walked the line. first she talked about israel and how october 7th was horrible. yeah, it was horrible. but it felt like she kind of down played what's been going on the last ten months. >> she did say it was heartbreaking, catastrophic, you know, they're without food, people are dying, children are dying. >> yeah, and it could be fixed today. it could be fixed today. >> reporter: what i'm hearing is that no matter what is said, really -- >> i need action. >> it's time to show action. >> if she would have called for a permanent cease fire, saying we do need a permanent cease fire, for me that would have been different. in the arab muslim community, we have been voting for democrats for a long time. at this point, our money is going to our families overseas who are dying every single day, who need aid because of direct results from this administration, which she's part

of. >> reporter: four of them, katy, were uncommitted. the woman up front was committed. she's voting kamala harris, she's going to stump for it. you heard the back and forth, right. the words matter from what is coming from vice president kamala harris now. actions matter to these individuals about what is coming from kamala harris when it comes to gaza and israel. they are voting on this issue, right, in november they will be voting on this issue. the difference i saw this time around versus february is two people i spoke to last night said there's no way i'm pulling a lever for kamala harris. two of them said they're open to a kamala harris presidency. she has 70 plus days to earn their vote. to call for, for instance, a permanent cease fire. i will go on to say, even towards the end of the conversation, lindsay who was in that crusade to me, i'm probably going to vote for kamala harris, i'm just not going to stump for her. >> she said it's horrible what's happening in gaza, awful what's happening to the innocent people

in gaza, and on the other side, she also called hamas a terrorist organization. she recognized the sexual assault of israeli women on october 7th, and she talked about the music festival killings, which is really key for a lot of jews out there who are horrified by what happened, and want that acknowledged at the very least before going on to say what's happening in gaza or at the same time as saying what is happening in gaza is also a horror. yasmin, thank you very much. and another awkward encounter on the campaign trail goes viral for j.d. vance, what impact his appearances might be having on the race. first, republicans who spoke on behalf of kamala harris at the dnc, what forced them and others like them to show up in that, of all places? david french joins us. david french joins us.

the democrats are as patriotic as us. [ cheers and applause ] they love this country just as much as we do. [ cheers and applause ] [ chanting usa ] >> and they -- and they are as eager to defend american values at home and abroad as we

conservatives have ever been. [ cheers and applause ] i was relieved to discover that because i've learned something about my party, too, something i couldn't ignore. the republican party is no longer conservative. it has switched its allegiance from the principals that gave it purpose to a man whose only purpose is himself. >> one of the last speakers before vice president harris took the stage last night was a republican, former illinois congressman, adam kinzinger, who was a rising gop star until he held donald trump accountable for january 6th. in taking the stage, kinzinger acknowledged he was making an awkward alliance with democrats but that the world of maga left him no choice. joining us now, "new york times" opinion columnist david french. do you agree with him? is the republican party no longer conservative? >> absolutely.

absolutely. now, there are many millions of conservatives who are in the republican party still, but the republican party institutionally is not recognizably conservative in the way that we have defined conservative really since reagan, so it's far more isolationist. trump just tweeted in support of reproductive rights or truth, i'm sorry posted in support of reproductive rights. it's far more statist in its outlook, far more isolationist, and temperamentally, it's far more cruel and malicious than it has ever been in my lifetime. and so it has fundamentally changed, but the interesting thing, katy is that a lot of republicans, believe it or not, don't really realize that. they don't understand the extent to which it has changed, and so speeches like adam kinzinger's or other republicans who have spoken or who spoke at the democratic convention, they were in many ways telling people news that they didn't know. >> i think it's interesting when you say that because i've heard

people talk about how they're going to be voting for this party or that because they've always voted that way, and so when you say if you're voting for a republican because you're a republican, this party is no longer what it used to be. it's not the party that you were voting for for, you know, 30, 40 years of your life. it's something entirely new all together. i wonder if people care much about the policy or if they just care about the letter in front of a lawmaker's name? >> no, i think it's deeper than that. i think they care about their community and their social environment. and so, if you're republican and you live in a very republican area, you are not exposed to a lot of arguments from democrats, and if you begin to drift away from being gop, it can cost you friendships and relationships. same thing, of course, happens in the democratic world where people, if you live in deep blue areas questioning sort of the orthodoxy can be very uncomfortable. so what we have is a lot of very

red areas where questioning the new orthodoxy gets very uncomfortable very fast, and so there's this very uneasy alliance right now between traditional conservatives and maga, and it's not really sustainable over the long term. they just believe different things. >> you know, you're saying that as well. i have also noticed there are a lot of folks around who are worried about questioning the orthodoxy, even when they feel uncomfortable with something. people that don't believe in the dogma as much as they might have before. there's, you know, this middle kind of area that -- there are people who are in the middle that don't feel entirely represented by either party. i wonder, you're talking about democrats don't talk to republicans in certain areas, republicans don't talk to democrats in certain areas, donald trump did go to places where he had no business being by, you know, all political accounts in 2016.

he went to, you know, oregon, a democratic state. what's he doing in oregon. he went to the bronx the other day, and i wonder if it would be more interesting for democrats if they started going, i don't know, to alabama or to mississippi, ro khanna has been somebody who has been trying to do this, going to republican pockets of the country and trying to talk to them directly about policies that he thinks the democratic party has to offer that are much better than republican policies. >> yeah, you know, i'm fully in favor of people getting outside their comfort zones, going to places in america where they don't necessarily feel like they fit in as well. because it's a learning exercise. at the same time, when you're a political party, and you don't have unlimited resources, sometimes you make a rational decision that says i might spend a bunch of money reaching out to a community and get nothing in return when i can spend that same amount of money, reach out to a more sympathetic community

and get votes out of it. politics becomes a very tough way to reconcile americans because of calculations like that. but i think it's up to -- >> another thing that's national and televised, donald trump was televised 24/7 in 2016, so even when he went to a blue place, he was still being heard all over the country, the same is happening today. it's not at the same level because we're not, you know, airing all of this stuff nonstop as we used to, but the democrats, if they went to mississippi, that is still something that would get national attention. i wonder if it matters as much as it used to? >> i don't know. i think we might be locked in to an old school world that says that that's a poor use of resources and are missing out on exactly the point you made, katy. politics often evolves slower than the rest of the culture. politics is often way downstream of the rest of the culture. it's a trailing edge indicator, not a leading edge indicator. you know, a lot of this -- a lot of our current political

calculation is based on a lot of old categories. that's one of the whole points behind a lot of conservatives saying that they're going to vote for harris, not because they agree with her on everything, but because the republican party sprinted away from them, left them very decisively. we're in a state of flux. you raise a great point. it could be that all of that sort of old calculation is just that, it's just out dated, but we are absolutely in a form of realignment, a lot of the old categories aren't matching, for example. when kamala harris spoke about foreign policy, there were points when it sounded almost reaganesque, that is not something you expect to hear. and when trump talks about foreign policy, he sounds dramatically isolationist, and that's not something republicans are used to hearing. >> it's deeply interesting this moment we're in. if you're paying attention, it's exhausting, and a bit scary, but it is deeply interesting. david french, david, thank you very much. and, i don't know, what could go wrong when you try to

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>> how long you been working? >> i've been here since the middle of july of this year. >> how about you, sir? >> almost two years. >> okay. good. >> how long has this place been around? >> about four years. >> about four years, okay. how long have you been year? >> a little over six months. >> good. okay. okay. good. that was republican vice presidential nominee j.d. vavrns at a doughnut shop in the battleground state of georgia. the awkward exchange triggered questions online of questions of whether he could do the basic political work of rerating to regular people. joining us now is henry gomez. so is this a one-off. is he normally more personable. >> i mean, with the whole situation shows to all of us i think it's a reminder that this is a guy who has not done a lot of retail politicking in the past. he's only been in the senate for

two years. i covered his first campaign, his only campaign before this in ohio a couple years ago, and he didn't do a lot of retail stops. j.d. vance is somebody most comfortable standing in a room, giving a speech, maybe taking some questions, mixing it up that way as opposed to, you know, going into a doughnut shop or a pizza shop or a diner and talking to people. it's not that he'll not ever be good at those things. it's that he hasn't done these things a lot in the past so he's learning on the fly. you know, it's not unique. i've been with other candidates who have gone into these situations, and it can be excruciating sometimes trying to talk to people who don't want to be talked to, that maybe weren't expecting you to drop by and interrupt their morning. you know, sometimes making small talk is tedious and he certainly found that out this week. >> but it's interesting with him because he is arguing that he is the voice of working class people. he talks about how he came from a working class background, the

people that he says are left behind by the democrats. you can argue about, you know, the message of his book, but his whole reason for being in the position he's in is that he understands these people, so to see him walk in and talk and have no ability to talk to -- to those workers at the doughnut shop, it seems like it's counter to the image that he's projecting to the american public. >> yeah. i mean, this is somebody who for the last year he's a derek aid removed from law school. he was in the military before that. he's been working in venture capital at silicon valley, you know, between the time that he was in law school and the time that he became, you know, a politician, so this is something where like, you know, i guess the trump campaign will decide whether they want to keep putting him out there in situations. something they will probably to attempt to do more because he needs to learn this sooner or later. donald trump himself doesn't do a lot of these retail stops. every now and then he drops into a mcdonald's or whatever and the crowds love it. he's obviously more personable

than vance is showing himself to be in the early going, but, yeah. i mean, there is, you know -- there's going to be a point where he'll have to prove that every man image cultivates for himself translate into smaller settings. >> thanks for joining us. appreciate it. >> that's going to do for me today. "deadline white house" starts right now. hi there, everyone. happy friday. it's 4:00 in the east. at this hour the political earthquake that was the democratic national convention is still reverberating in chicago and across our national politics. a short time ago vice president kamala harris departed chicago and she had a message before she took off. [ inaudible ] >> she heads back to

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